Different suggestions (#1682)

Hello, I already texted almost a year ago, usually you reply but that time you didn't. I didn't use the app for some time anyway. Now when I use it those things still bother me so I decided to repeat my suggestions.

1) Can you implement automatic save like in scrivener or probably any online app. When I close the app don't ask me if I want to save, of course I do. You shouldn't ask such thing all the time just because one of billion times somebody will choose now.

2) IDEF1X diagram is called just "diagram" in the project tree for some reason.

3) Key attributes in IDEF1X entity are too close to the top border line. It is distracting.

12 September 2021 16:50:38
6 October 2021 8:12:20
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Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 13 September 2021 9:34:55


I am sorry, I must have forgotten to respond to your last message (I remember I have read it).

1) I understand your point. It may be added as an optional behavior via a dedicated setting. I think it may not be a good idea to set it as a default behavior as it is not expected for desktop applications. It could cause saving unwanted changes in some cases.

2) 3) It will be fixed and adjusted.

SplinterX 17 September 2021 18:23:20


Maybe you will manage to implement the next one in the same release.

4) Convert elements and diagrams from one to another.

For example when I just start analyzing data I use idef1x diagram because it is more expressive for representing the fundamental structure of a field. But when I study and establish it enough I need to think about more dynamic processes. Then it can be convenient to use UML class diagram. But 95% of it will be very similar to idef1x.

Maybe you don't even need to program all the possible conversions separately, you probably already use common patterns for them. So entity becomes a class with no methods. I guess you understand very well what I mean, so I won't say more)

SplinterX 18 September 2021 20:00:26

5) Weak entity in idef1x has thicker border line than a strong one. It looks pretty sloppy.

SplinterX 19 September 2021 0:11:14

6) Methods of class are too close to the border line too.

7) Some classes in my diagram doesn't show methods area of entity at all. Showing part menu doesn't help. This menu is weird anyway. It shows parameters like nothing is chosen so I need to click twice on it sometimes. I guess you know what I mean.

Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 20 September 2021 10:52:19

4) It will be added in some other version. It's quite a big feature and the next version will be released very soon.

5) I can't see any problem there. Could you please provide a screenshot?

6) It will be improved. The separator line will be centered. Anyways, if you want you can increase the space with Padding style even now.

7) Could you please provide a screenshot of a class without a method area? If it is possible, also an example project file would be appreciated. You can send it to softwareideas@softwareideas.net

SplinterX 22 September 2021 23:53:40

4) Actually I've found the way to convert entity to class. There's such button in floating menu but it is not in context menu by some reason. I like the app, but its interface is a mess. No offense)) But it doesn't work anyway. Only title of an entity was copied as title of the class. The attributes wasn't copied by some reason. Plus converting the whole diagram is much better way if it existed.

5) https://yadi.sk/i/-4q7JmhrmvMJqw

6) But it works only for the entire class, so the difference will still be there. And padding work on both X and Y coordinates. Not separately.

7) I've fixed it. The setting is called Presentation style.

Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 6 October 2021 8:15:21

4) Converting attributes was fixed in the new version.

5) This is an anti-aliasing artifact, probably because of non-integral coordinates. We will see what can be done about it.

6) It should be better now

SplinterX 13 October 2021 12:06:45

Hello. Thanks. It is mostly much better. But now there's new serious bug I guess that still prevents me from using idef1x. I can't make bold titles of entities and keep normal (not bold) attributes and operations. Also I can't edit attributes and methods right in a diagram with double click or even option "rename".

Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 14 October 2021 8:14:02

Hello, you are welcome. You are right. There is something wrong with attribute editing (directly in diagram editor). It will be fixed very soon. I expect the next version on Tuesday.

SplinterX 23 November 2021 11:11:35

I had no time to text earlier, but entity style bug is not fixed still.

If I change text style of the title of an entity all attributes change their style too. Sometimes they don't but new attributes I create are made in the title's style. I need an opportunity to make titles super bold and attributes regular.

Also often when I change at least something in the style of attributes, titles or something else it also changes the border line width from 0 to 1 what doesn't make sense and annoying.

In general styles was always weird in your app. It is hard for me to remember every single thing maybe you will find it yourself, I don't know. Please fix at least things I mentioned.

Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 2 December 2021 9:51:27


Sorry for the late reply. The issues you mentioned were analyzed and they will be fixed in the next release. Previously, there was a misunderstanding of what exactly is the problem. Thank you for your feedback and this clarification.

SplinterX 3 December 2021 8:54:27

Also when I rename an attribute it fills "not null" there and the width of an entity increases accordingly even though I didn't use that part at all. It is hard to explain better though if you see it yourself I don't need to. But if you don't then let me know I will try to explain better.

SplinterX 21 June 2022 21:37:03

Hello. Couldn't text sooner. But you still didn't fix what I was talking about. It is all about idef1x diagram at least.

If I change the font of the entity title it automatically changes the font of all the attributes. It shouldn't happen. Especially considering that by default they are different things with different font styles.

And I don't remember if it was in the previous version but now I see that the black circle in the end of the connector is too big. How can I change it?

Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 22 June 2022 17:16:02


It seems it works for all other elements except the IDEF1X entity. It will be fixed in the next release.

You can adjust the size of the circle using the Style sidebar - Layout/Proportion modifier.

If you want to make it your default style for the project, select the connector in the diagram editor and then open the Styles sidebar and click on the arrow part of the second button and choose Set Default Style For Selected Element Type from the drop-down menu.

SplinterX 24 June 2022 13:18:30

Thanks. Another problem is about savings and back ups. I set to save the file upon the closing without additional confirmation. So when I do something, close the file and then open it again everything is fine. But if i didn't do any change to the diagram, closed it (with autosave upon closing\exiting still being turned on) and open it then the notification appears. That I didn't save anything and offers me to use the back ups. It is not true and annoying.

It sounded easier in my head, but my message got too complicated, sorry for that. I hope you've got what I meant.

SplinterX 27 June 2022 17:29:47


1) When I open the file again it shows me model folder overview. I want it to open the last diagram at once instead. It is an old problem.

2) When I change some settings in the option window I want these changes to be applied automatically. Stop asking confirmation every time. If I change my mind I will just use the chancel button.

It is even more annoying when confirmation is asked when I made zero changes at all.

Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 27 June 2022 17:47:17

1) You can change this behavior from Options - uncheck the option Show project overview on loaded in the General section.

2) This behavior will be adjusted.

SplinterX 27 June 2022 19:41:33

Thanks. What about my previous message?

SplinterX 27 June 2022 20:45:01


1) "uncheck the option Show project overview on loaded" doesn't work properly. the left toolbar\panel doesn't appear before clicking on something. Very tedious.

2) And I think it won't be too difficult to implement. Can't you add tall and narrow buttons on each panel to show\hide them. And one button on the top to hide them both.

3) As on option I want to be able to move the tab bar to the top of the screen like Chrome does.


Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 28 June 2022 8:51:43

To the previous message - the issue with the notification before opening the file was fixed in version 13.45.

1) If you do not want the toolbox to hide, uncheck Toolbars / Toolbox / Auto hide toolbox in the General section in Options. Actually, there is an issue that the toolbox does not hide in all the scenarios when it should. We need to look at it.

2) 3) Interesting suggestions. I added them to our to-do list of future improvements.

SplinterX 28 June 2022 11:07:26

I use the last version and the issue is still there.

If i close with no change then the restore backup window appears.

Unchecking auto hide toolbox didn't work either.

Dusan Rodina - softwareideas.net 28 June 2022 11:28:00

If the version is 13.45 and the 'Auto save on close' option is checked, the notification should not appear. Unfortunately, we were not able to reproduce the described behavior with various combinations of settings and project actions (changed/unchanged project). We will analyze whether some local system settings could not interfere with the mechanism.

SplinterX 28 June 2022 13:00:26

Maybe I got something wrong


And please don't forget to look at autohide toolbar bug.

SplinterX 28 June 2022 17:31:44

Also I couldn't find how to disable this thing


It should be in both the view menu and the setting but it is in neither.

SplinterX 28 June 2022 18:08:12

- I couldn't find how can I transform many to many relationship into one to many.

- Idef1x notation also includes the possibility to use two verb phrases: one for each direction. SIM doesn't.

- Definitely a bug. When I try to move cardinality letter it starts jumping all around the close entities.

- There are only three cardinality option in idef1: P, Z and specific number > 0. I think it would be a good idea to have such setting somewhere than just giving an option to write whenever you want there. Such an option shouldn't be excluded either.

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